Do any of you nerds care about this stuff yet?

It's INSANE how big MOBAs are now.

Example: This is how League of Legends is progressing as a spectator event

I don't play league or mobas because they're fucky but discuss

I've played a few seasons of competitive Team Fortress 2. A couple seasons of 6v6, 1 season of 4v4, and 2 seasons of 9v9. I main scout, but my secondary main is Medic.

Fuck MOBA's, I mean I play Heroes of the Storm but like I don't see how they have gotten so big in the competitive world.

[quote DJSketch]
Fuck MOBA's, I mean I play Heroes of the Storm but like I don't see how they have gotten so big in the competitive world.

​they're pretty hard and update all of the time so it's constantly a new metagame. I don't know how this has translated into being a global phenomenon

It's based on how similar MOBA's are to Starcraft, a game that has seen ridiculous exposure. Also, League is really fun. Kind of addicting. Mystik forced me ot play it but I ended up really liking it and I even bought a hero with my IP (points you win from playing games).

I play dota 2 and TI4 was huge but a fucking garbage chinaman grand final nearly ruined the entire scene. They brought out a whole huge patch desgined to block shit games like those ones. DreamHack was pretty good with EG winning and clown9 coming 2nd as usual and The Summit 2 had fantastic games even if it was poorly fucking run.

Also StarLadder X was awesome and StarLadder XI is in qualifiers now. DAC is coming up but it's a chin tournament.

I missed a lot of TI4 but watched a bit of starladder and other insignificant events, TI3 i caught a bit of mainly towards the end. It's pretty awesome, I couldn't get over the fact there were announcers and like 20000 people viewing online and massive events irl. Its crazy but cool. Also ti4 was the first esports even to be aired on tv I do believe

[quote DJSketch]
Fuck MOBA's, I mean I play Heroes of the Storm but like I don't see how they have gotten so big in the competitive world.

​Its chess on steroids. What youre saying is kind of like yeah I play softball but I don't see why baseball is so big even though I've never watched a game or know anything about it.

[quote Zantarax]
​Its chess on steroids. What youre saying is kind of like yeah I play softball but I don't see why baseball is so big even though I've never watched a game or know anything about it.

​I agree. It's so satisfying to get that kill, or even an assist since I play support.

[quote Industry]
​I agree. It's so satisfying to get that kill, or even an assist since I play support.

​Haha yeah I actually enjoy supporting a lot as well, nothing worse than a shitty support or no support. The team game mechanics is what its all about sahn

[quote Zantarax]
​Its chess on steroids. What youre saying is kind of like yeah I play softball but I don't see why baseball is so big even though I've never watched a game or know anything about it.

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[quote Industry]
​I agree. It's so satisfying to get that kill, or even an assist since I play support.

​It just seems so hard to get into.

[quote Wackid]
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​It just seems so hard to get into.

​are u fuggin jokin? League is easy as fuck to get into, its only difficult when you start studying the metas.

[quote Wackid]
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​It just seems so hard to get into.

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[quote Industry]
​are u fuggin jokin? League is easy as fuck to get into, its only difficult when you start studying the metas.

​Yeah leagues pretty much Dota2 for kids. DotA has a "steep learning curve" but it's definitely worth it. The best part of the game is that you keep learning as you go, I have 700 odd hours and I'm still learning all the time. Then you watch the professionals play and realise you are absolute garbage haha. You have to pay to unlock the full league game as well as far as I'm aware, where as dota is full content from the start.

[quote Industry]
​are u fuggin jokin? League is easy as fuck to get into, its only difficult when you start studying the metas.

​just lemme use wasd u idiot game

[quote Zantarax]
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​Yeah leagues pretty much Dota2 for kids. DotA has a "steep learning curve" but it's definitely worth it. The best part of the game is that you keep learning as you go, I have 700 odd hours and I'm still learning all the time. Then you watch the professionals play and realise you are absolute garbage haha. You have to pay to unlock the full league game as well as far as I'm aware, where as dota is full content from the st

So far haven't paid far haven't paid for anything and none of my high level friends have said anything about paying to unlock a "full" game. You can buy champions and skins...

[quote Industry]

So far haven't paid far haven't paid for anything and none of my high level friends have said anything about paying to unlock a "full" game. You can buy champions and skins...

​He's talking about having to buy heroes instead of a game that just has them

[quote JuИИeZ]
​He's talking about having to buy heroes instead of a game that just has them

​Oh, whatever. You can buy heroes with IP so that's fine.

[quote Zantarax]
​Its chess on steroids. What youre saying is kind of like yeah I play softball but I don't see why baseball is so big even though I've never watched a game or know anything about it.

​Umm I have played all said MOBA's, I wouldn't say its Chess on steroids either. Starcraft an other RTS's are more like that. Like I said in the beginning Fuck MOBA's.

[quote Industry]
​Oh, whatever. You can buy heroes with IP so that's fine.

​Yeah i've seen the time you have to poor into the game to get it instead of buying and its ridiculous.

[quote DJSketch]
​Umm I have played all said MOBA's, I wouldn't say its Chess on steroids either. Starcraft an other RTS's are more like that. Like I said in the beginning Fuck MOBA's.

​Well thats your bad opinion

[quote Zantarax]
​Yeah i've seen the time you have to poor into the game to get it instead of buying and its ridiculous.

​Well thats your bad opinion

​lol what? I played like 20 games and had enough to buy one of the most expensive heroes. Its not too bad.

[quote Industry]
​lol what? I played like 20 games and had enough to buy one of the most expensive heroes. Its not too bad.

​>buying heroes

[quote Industry]
​lol what? I played like 20 games and had enough to buy one of the most expensive heroes. Its not too bad.

​so like 20 hours almost probably

[quote JuИИeZ]
​>buying heroes

​yeap

i seriously find it hard to understand why anyone would play and PAY for league of legends when you can get dota 2 for free?

dota is so much better than lol its incomparable, i always just assumed lol lured in kids but you guys have really let me down here

love me some dota 2.

the great western roster shuffle: part 1 is about to happen so keep your eyes on the dota 2 subreddit if you're interested in the roster changes.

I play Minecraft and random games. I've never been a competitive player

[quote Zantarax]
​Yeah i've seen the time you have to poor into the game to get it instead of buying and its ridiculous.

​Well thats your bad opinion

Bad opinion or good opinion doesn't matter, again your the one who asked our thoughts on ESports, an that's my opinion.

[quote DJSketch]
Bad opinion or good opinion doesn't matter, again your the one who asked our thoughts on ESports, an that's my opinion.

​No i'm not haha and he wanted your opinion on esports not moba.

League is easy to get into and just challenging enough. I dont give a shit about Dota because I've tried it and I didnt like the style of it. Its too complicated and I honestly dont give a rats ass to learn it. I hardly give a rats ass to learn LoL, I honestly care much more about team fortress 2.

[quote Industry]
League is easy to get into and just challenging enough. I dont give a shit about Dota because I've tried it and I didnt like the style of it. Its too complicated and I honestly dont give a rats ass to learn it. I hardly give a rats ass to learn LoL, I honestly care much more about team fortress 2.

​I fucking hated tf2 for some reason. But yeah it takes a long time to get the gist of.

if youre gona play an fps competitively why the fuck chose tf2? i always liked the game but i couldnt imagine playing it for more than just fun, css and cs:go are for pro skillz and comps?

[quote Zantarax]
​No i'm not haha and he wanted your opinion on esports not moba.

​Umm MOBA's are like the all hear about mostly when it comes to ESports anymore.

[quote DJSketch]
​Umm MOBA's are like the all hear about mostly when it comes to ESports anymore.

​Because they're so great, amirite?!

[quote Zantarax]
​Because they're so great, amirite?!

​About as great as a hernia. So IDK your idea of great.

spot the hater

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
spot the hater

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[quote OhMyGawdzz]
spot the hater

​Not really a hater, just don't understand the hype. My feelings are mutual when it comes to Minecraft as well.

[quote DJSketch]
​Not really a hater, just don't understand the hype. My feelings are mutual when it comes to Minecraft as well.

​OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE MY DOTA TO MINEFUCKINGCRAFT

[quote DJSketch]
​About as great as a hernia. So IDK your idea of great.

​I'm not 65 so I'm not to sure about that one

[quote DJSketch]
​Not really a hater, just don't understand the hype. My feelings are mutual when it comes to Minecraft as well.

​Jesus christ you're all over the shop

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE MY DOTA TO MINEFUCKINGCRAFT

​You're right, DOTA takes less skills and has worse graphics than Minecraft.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST COMPARE MY DOTA TO MINEFUCKINGCRAFT

​ I wasn't comparing the two in gameplay, just in popularity. I don't understand why they are so popular. Can't really compare the 2 gameplay wise seeing as they are 2 different games in that aspect.

[quote Zantarax]
​Jesus christ you're all over the shop

​Deal with it

[quote JuNNeZ]
​You're right, DOTA takes less skills and has worse graphics than Minecraft.

sketch- dota is popular because its so addictive, youre constantly learning like zant said earlier you can be 700+ hrs into it and still be learning shit, its about constantly improving and there is like 100+ heroes to learn, minecraft on the other hand i have no fucking idea. the graphics are horse shit, the gameplay is nonexistant and THERE IS NO FUCKING POINT TO THE GAME fuck i hate minecraft fags

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
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chaser - dota is popular because its so addictive, youre constantly learning like zant said earlier you can be 700+ hrs into it and still be learning shit, its about constantly improving and there is like 100+ heroes to learn, minecraft on the other hand i have no fucking idea. the graphics are horse shit, the gameplay is nonexistant and THERE IS NO FUCKING POINT TO THE GAME fuck i hate minecraft fags

​I think you meant me not chaser, but close enough.

[quote DJSketch]
​I think you meant me not chaser, but close enough.

​who looks like the idiot now

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
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Well it is what I do best after all

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
minecraft on the other hand i have no fucking idea. the graphics are horse shit, the gameplay is nonexistant and THERE IS NO FUCKING POINT TO THE GAME fuck i hate minecraft fags

Au contraire, mon ami!
There's infinite gameplay and if you care about graphics in a game, you're retarded. DOTA is fine game, but I don't like the style and feel of it.

[quote JuNNeZ]
Au contraire, mon ami!There's infinite gameplay and if you care about graphics in a game, you're retarded. DOTA is fine game, but I don't like the style and feel of it.

​no, running around building shit is all well and good when your 6 years old and enjoying your new lego set, but why the fuck would you play a game with the only goal being to build some shit then be like "hmm..ok thats that done now what" literally every minecraft player i know is either aged between 8-15 or a complete social retard

i can get people not liking dota, thats not my beef. people liking minecraft is

also im pretty sure nearly every gamer cares about graphics, otherwise we wouldnt have evolved past the playstation 1.

I like tf2 over cs:s and cs:go because it is class based. Each class has a different counter. In cs:s one guy with a deagle can ace a team, but if Im the last one alive on my team fortress team as scout and ace the other team that is incredibly more impressive imho. Counter-strike is just too one dimensional. The meta is the same it has always been. The community is toxic too.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​no, running around building shit is all well and good when your 6 years old and enjoying your new lego set, but why the fuck would you play a game with the only goal being to build some shit then be like "hmm..ok thats that done now what" literally every minecraft player i know is either aged between 8-15 or a complete social retard

i can get people not liking dota, thats not my beef. people liking minecraft is

also im pretty sure nearly every gamer cares about graphics, otherwise we wouldnt have evolved past the playstation 1.

​I feel the same when it comes to Mincraft.

[quote JuNNeZ]
Au contraire, mon ami!There's infinite gameplay and if you care about graphics in a game, you're retarded. DOTA is fine game, but I don't like the style and feel of it.

​Somehow I don't see that bit of pocket lint inside your skull that you call a brain even comprehending the game.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​no, running around building shit is all well and good when your 6 years old and enjoying your new lego set, but why the fuck would you play a game with the only goal being to build some shit then be like "hmm..ok thats that done now what" literally every minecraft player i know is either aged between 8-15 or a complete social retard

i can get people not liking dota, thats not my beef. people liking minecraft is

also im pretty sure nearly every gamer cares about graphics, otherwise we wouldnt have evolved past the playstation 1.

​When minecraft originally came out it was a cool concept, there were only 9 blocks of which you had unlimited supply and the entire point of the game was to build massive crazy shit. Servers used to be like cities packed with insanely creative designs and all the pixel art shit etc. It's changed a lot and even that idea now would be gay because its already been done. When the idea was fresh it was cool though. Plus yeah I think I was like 14/15 at the time haha.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​no, running around building shit is all well and good when your 6 years old and enjoying your new lego set, but why the fuck would you play a game with the only goal being to build some shit then be like "hmm..ok thats that done now what" literally every minecraft player i know is either aged between 8-15 or a complete social retard

i can get people not liking dota, thats not my beef. people liking minecraft is

also im pretty sure nearly every gamer cares about graphics, otherwise we wouldnt have evolved past the playstation 1.

​There's limited gameplay in DOTA, you can only play the maps and heroes a set amount of times, before it gets boring and you're basically just repeating everything you've already done. Minecraft has unlimited possibilities, you can decide to build what ever you want, you can even build computers and entire games inside this game. I bet you someone made a copy of DOTA in Minecraft. When you get bored of the main game after a while, you can begin modding and it opens up a whole new game. The possibilities is unlimited and you can pretty much do what ever you want.

I'm not hating on DOTA here or saying Minecraft is better, I just find your limited view of both games weird and want to elaborate on how Minecraft is a sandbox where anything is possible.

[quote JuNNeZ]
​There's limited gameplay in DOTA, you can only play the maps and heroes a set amount of times, before it gets boring and you're basically just repeating everything you've already done. Minecraft has unlimited possibilities, you can decide to build what ever you want, you can even build computers and entire games inside this game. I bet you someone made a copy of DOTA in Minecraft. When you get bored of the main game after a while, you can begin modding and it opens up a whole new game. The possibilities is unlimited and you can pretty much do what ever you want.
I'm not hating on DOTA here or saying Minecraft is better, I just find your limited view of both games weird and want to elaborate on how Minecraft is a sandbox where anything is possible.

​Thats a fucking lie. There's one map in dota. Don't comment on a game you haven't even played. Like he said theres over 100 heros, being lenient I'd say you'll play a character at least 5 times before you can even begin understanding it in any real way, then you've got your skill and item builds, another couple hundred variables. Then you've got the opposing team, you have to understand all those heros to play against them and depending on your hero/roll in the current game play against/avoid/counter the enemy. Which moves on to rolls which consist of but aren't limited to one per hero or one at a time carry/semi carry/ support/ jungler/ ganker/ roam. So a few hundred more variables open up. Every game you start off at level zero with whatever hero you chose so its based on skill and not grindtime or p2p or swinging a fucking pickaxe like on minecraft. I get bored of games very easily, I have 795 hours of dota, which would be more if I didn't have a pc for a good 6-8 months. You suck jewnoze

TLDR: games of dota are like snowflakes.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
Ok, but you have to admit that there's limited gameplay no matter what you say. At some point, even if its after 2000 hours, there's nothing more to do or it stops being fun.

[quote JuNNeZ]
Ok, but you have to admit that there's limited gameplay no matter what you say. At some point, even if its after 2000 hours, there's nothing more to do or it stops being fun.

​like mein homie says, you cant possibly understand how many variables and amount of different gameplay there is within dota, you could literally plays it for 2000+ hrs like u said and still not know shit, look at the pro scene those nerds are prob rockin like 10k+ hrs and they love it more than now than ever because its a progression thing, the more u play the better you get, the better you get the more u wana play and pwn n00bz. dota cant be complete and only gets boring when you get bored of playing the same game, the same thing that would happen with minecraft/css/starcraft/wow whatever game u can think of.

saying minecraft has unlimited possibilities is like saying lego has unlimited possibilities, im not gona go to the attic and hunt my old legos out tho, id rather be entertained feel like im achieving something. dota gives you immense satisfaction when you are able to pick a hard carry and slap the other team/make them ragequit. you'd have to experience it to know what i mean, minecraft is literally just a sandbox il never understand its appeal past 15 year olds, i cudnt give a fuck about building a pc within a pc

[quote JuNNeZ]
Ok, but you have to admit that there's limited gameplay no matter what you say. At some point, even if its after 2000 hours, there's nothing more to do or it stops being fun.

​If minecraft is a world of endless possibilities, build me a perfect circle.

[quote OhMyGawdzz]
​like mein homie says, you cant possibly understand how many variables and amount of different gameplay there is within dota, you could literally plays it for 2000+ hrs like u said and still not know shit, look at the pro scene those nerds are prob rockin like 10k+ hrs and they love it more than now than ever because its a progression thing, the more u play the better you get, the better you get the more u wana play and pwn n00bz. dota cant be complete and only gets boring when you get bored of playing the same game, the same thing that would happen with minecraft/css/starcraft/wow whatever game u can think of.

saying minecraft has unlimited possibilities is like saying lego has unlimited possibilities, im not gona go to the attic and hunt my old legos out tho, id rather be entertained feel like im achieving something. dota gives you immense satisfaction when you are able to pick a hard carry and slap the other team/make them ragequit. you'd have to experience it to know what i mean, minecraft is literally just a sandbox il never understand its appeal past 15 year olds, i cudnt give a fuck about building a pc within a pc

​As I've said, it appeals to different people, some people likes being creative, while others like to get good at a game and win over others.

[quote Zantarax]
​If minecraft is a world of endless possibilities, build me a perfect circle.

​It's possible, if you see each block as a pixel, with a enough blocks, you can create the perfect circle. Or it'll be perfect in appearance.